Zepherine Drouhin is a great, lush blooming climber and thornless...a plus, for sure. It always gets alot of attention from visitors, but is in full bloom only once with intermittent blooms the rest of the summer. And oh, Bonica is a pretty little bush rose with a nice scent. I had 3 Bonicas as a hedge near the front door and had a very romantic look. It has wonderful hips, too.