Well, I went ahead and bought them. The horticulturist at Garden World wasn't very helpful. We played phone tag for so long, that I think she was irritated, and she sounded hostile on the phone. She was pretty much useless. Then the trees were 4 hours late when delivered. The trees are healthy and huge, however, so I'm pleased. Once installed, it will look like they have been there for several years already. They are done blooming for this year. I am going to have my landscapers install them, b/c they are so big, and I have electric uplights in those places on the patio. I'll post a pic when they are in! They will provide my patio with some much needed shade.