Thanks zuzu .. Skiekitty I'm not sure when lol i just know its been forever. once we decided to move Its been sheer anxiety over my plants .so I kinda just didn't want to look or deal w them or talk about it lol! Now that the survivors are in the ground I can go shopping again !! So far so good on the cuttings none have rotted none dried out . They are in coir in pots in baggies on my south facing windowsill . 72 degrees in the house lol I know the do good rooting straight in the ground but it gets to hot here