I moved rountuit to the back of the garden. I did a 3 way swap -Souvenier de la Malmaison, Will Shakespeare 2000, roundtuit. I dug out rt, immediately put it in a bucket of water, expanded and enriched the hole, filled it with water, moved the next one directly into the hole, etc. All are alive and well!
Chris Marlowe is still recovering from an earlier move, but his canes are still green, so I just keep watering and hoping for the best.
The next candidate for moving is vineyard song, but I am currently just cutting it back after blooming. I like the blooms, but it has a more sprawling habit than I expected. It is blending with a groundcover rose, baby blanket, it may work out.
I still haven't seen a bloom on rountuit. It has 5' tall sprawling canes and not a bloom in sight. Maybe next year. At least the area around my favorite rose, Tiffany, is looking better now. Rountuit was crowding her.
I am beginning to agree with zuzu and prefer the hybrid teas. Although, I will stick to own root hardy ones for the time being. Buck's Honey Sweet has been fabulous this year. Lots of big, beautiful blooms on an upright shrub all season long!