Thanks, I can use all the help I can get. I'm not sure how they are related to adenium, but that is about the only tender succulent I have had success with.
Tarev, your Elephant bush looks big. How tall is it? I think other than the stem color both the ones in the #11 pot look just alike with their leaves arranged the same way alone the side.
Thanks Sue. Mine does look a lot like your photo in the database.