so far i have a a good amount of buds. there are 2 roses that are ate up with midge damage. . (i have buds on them but could have more)the others seem immune.. i will try that ant killer on the 2 that perpetuate the problem. but so far so good. everything looks fab the Austins have almost no midge damage the hybrid musk's also have none to speak of.. its just those 2 noid climbers. there is a missing bud here and there though. do you know if the ant killer harms bees and ladybugs. i feel so guilty serving up poison pollen.