Thanks, everyone! Marilyn, we'll have to talk! I'm still figuring out what will grow here in Elizabeth. Was in Parker until 5 years ago and even though it's only 15-20 miles away it feels like a completely different zone! Do you collect any specific plants? I've found the deer hate peonies and they're easy to grow so.....I'm working on new gardens in a completely unlandscaped large lot so could use some ideas!