Well that cleared up another mystery for me! The Fairy Tale roses are listed at sizes ranging from 18" to 6' for the same rose! I have one that stays under 15", and the 2 that I bought from Palatine last year are easily 5' tall now. I will have to move them, because they are in the front of a bed right by the front door. Cinderella Fairy Tale has a wild cane that competes with cl. America!