Oh good...I'm going to dig a spot for it today.
Fern group mtg was mostly Christi, who had really done her homework, asking Liz if we could transform the area next to where the original fern bed is. Liz was receptive to all suggestions except adding new short wall halfway across the new bed and back-filling it. Said the oaks should not have their roots covered. Right now, until approval and money, we only have permission to removed the ivy....and the poison ivy...from the new bed.
Also discussed the pond access.