Thx, I planted 5 meleagris, 5 fox's grape and 7 crown imperials 2 falls ago. No blooms last year and only only the 1 meleagris and 2 crown imperials broke ground (and promptly died back). I think I planted some things where the fox's grape were. I forgot to mark them!! This year all the crown imperials are up to about 1-2'. There not growing perfect straight like in the growers photos but I have them supported and am crossing my fingers that I get some blooms.