Thank you so much for asking this question and for the answers posted! I hadn't had time to post my pics from last summer's bloom, but Madiera and Pallida both bloomed with the characteristics being discussed above. Madiera came out looking very diploid, and Pallida became mostly white with streaks of blue. I have more pics of them if any one is interested. They looked like "throw backs" to me. The later two photos are what these cultivars looked like in a different location.