I do know I got them from Hirts Gardens
One is a Venus Sweetshrub (this was to be white, but it was not)
One is a Hartiage Wine Sweetshrub but in the tag it just said Spicebush.
Both are hardy here in Zone 6
Both are to be fragrant but I find neither of them are. Michael is.
That is about all I know, there was no conversation regarding this sale. They arrived looking terrible I remember and I never thought they would make it, but they did. It was an eBay sale, so I am not sure what state they were shipped from.