I got 7 seeds from 'Michael' and 9 seeds from #2 bush. I have two floaters in 'Michael' and only 1 in #2. That's not bad at all. Now I'm going to wrap half of them in damp paper towel and leave them at room temperature to see how many will sprout. The other half will be wrapped in damp paper towel and live in the fridge for a while.