Thanks, Julia. Since I am trying to be a "new-semp-holdout", it means that I have to rip out some old semps to put in new old semps. Easy to do if I would just pay more attention to what I have at home in front of me instead of dreaming about new semps from somewhere else like: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Nursery (fill in blanks with any nursery that sells semps).