I just now have germination of two seedlings from those old, 2008 seed that were stored at room-temp. I used the baggie method. They were from a trade and were collected from someone's plant so there was a bunch of chaff and unripe seed in the mix, so I'm not sure how many ripe seeds I even sowed. I'm happy with even two seedlings, though! Fingers crossed now that I don't kill the tiny things.
