Rick, as for your last comment/question regarding what a reasonable size to expect from a four inch pot would be: My answer would be of blooming quality. Whatever size that would be for the specific species I would say should be the size unless specified that it may not be. I do realize that some lilies do bloom from smaller bulbs but to only have one that is at that size is not unreasonable to be expected when you ordered two. Now if out of the nine Taliense bulbs (there were only 9 Rick!Lol) more than one flower, I will feel a little bad and take the egg on my face. Again I got a little steamed from the original Sargentiae sadness. Just my opinion as well. No hard feelings.