Sue, you and I live in a very similar climate, and thanks for the warning that sculpting might not appear for me! But, is that also true of Corbett's Bonnie Holley daylily? I've only seen pix of it. I'm aware that the greater Sacramento area gets considerably hotter than the Bay Area, but humidity is low and their evening temps could be in the 50's - just as it is here. If sculpting appears in the Sacramento area, but not here, then maybe it's because of the area's higher day temps? It's all very confusing! : ) All the best - Elizabete