I need to find another one of those, I may have picked that up at Ikea. It comfortably holds 7 AV pots without crowding them. I have two of the pedestals one is just slightly shorter, they were given to me years ago and they have come in very handy. I painted the other one tan thinking I might stencil it but never did and am not really sure I want to now. I have about 20 of them.