Thx Melaine, it was in a Catt special box from Carmela's on ebay that I just got in the mail. I find that my conditions are what they are, so I'm sticking with catts mostly for any new purchases. Of course the coelogyne and lycaste like it here!
Only chance I'm taking is that I bid on Rossioglussum hybrid today on ebay to close in one hour. I'm trying to look it up now, should have done that before I bid!.