We met Josh and wife Nikki a couple of times at the Hybridizers Summit in Chattanooga, TN a few years ago. They are a sweet young couple. Josh is doing some amazing work in his hybridizing program. We bought his first collection. He is helping to sell Sandy Nall's intros through his website. Yesterday we received the two of Sandy's that we had ordered through Josh's website, so they must be grown at Josh's. Josh had emailed a few days ago asking if I was ready to receive them.