zuzu, JRsbugs, and Calif_Sue
Thanks for all that info, I think they both look very close. So close that I can not tell between the two which one it actually is. I am leaning more toward 'Whisky Mac' for two reasons, the yellow orange color seems to fit better than copper shading, but more importantly I feel I now have a reason for the flower being tossed to the curb, it had a drinking problem!