Sorry Dave I don't have an mp3 player or anything that will play your podcast but I do have a comment about no till gardening. I have 2 huge flower gardens & Giant oak trees. For 18 years I have saved and put back in my soil these leaves and all the pinestraw & pinebark (from the loggers in the woods) and I never till or turn up my garden unless I am changing things around then I grind it in w/ tiller. My abundance of worms is a key and any place you dig you'll find them in our once waste land of sand and bare ground. The fruit orchard and the garden was the last and is now in process and the sand is losing ground. South Georgia has been wet this year and no garden planted yet. Folks never burn what God puts on his floor before considering it for mulch.