Thank you Neil. Now I have an idea of where to start. I will try to compare some of your suggestions to my pictures. I agree with Cassata, my #8. I have Ice King in my yard in a couple different location and they do not seem to have the green on the outermost petals. My picture #4 has pale pale yellow outer petals. It was not a real good picture. I will see if they are still blooming and try to get a better picture tomorrow. I attached a picture of what I bought as Ice King. Does the green on the outer petal get larger when they get older? Will see what you think.