Well, right now this seems to be more about genetics than I really want to know or can digest, but this morning I found minor (the tall grassy leaved one) flava or lilioasphodelus and middendorfs has been in bloom for a week and various plants that I bought as minor but look like a smaller middendorfs and my concern now is trying to decide what to cross with what (I haven't planted the seeds from last year yet) and how to get earlier reds and eyes. Maurice tried to explain to me once how I got a red from two yellows and I may have understood part of it. The thing is the actual work of crossing and raising the seedlings is what I need to concentrate on now, minor and flava open evenings for instance tho I got a bunch of seeds last year. I'm puzzled by pictures of aurantiaca as the pics look more like one I bought as rosea. Doesn't rosea figure in a lot of early hybrids?I have never posted a photo here (and my camera doesn't work and I'm on a day old new computer) but I'll try to post what I bought as rosea.------------------------------Weedy