Lynn,
If I get a real dark grey seedling from 'Plastic' I'll have to name it TEFLON! Oh that would cause Ed Skrocki to howl! I remember when I crossed his 'Olivette' with a red and got 'Stuffed Olive'. He howled over that too! Last year I self-pollinated a stalk of 'Stuffed Olive' to try and get some more olive tones a brighter red. The seedlings are definitely showing red centers already.
Kevin