-The last photo is from red seedling X Red Rum---------------one year it bloomed by June, this year the darn thing did not bloom at all-just a nice clump of fans. I suppose I like being stubborn and I raise very few seeds each year, most very challenging, I have even used wild ditch lilies and Kwanso---not a project for the impatient. Getting pods on either is next to impossible but the pollen is a little easier except you have to dig the pollen off the edges of the petals (or whatever they are, they are twisted) on Kwanso. This year I am going to try to use old Ed Murray and I can't even tell if I have tet or dip or both Ed Murray. I may try both dip and tet, maybe Wild Horses tho I did once get a seedling from Ed and Pardon Me and a purple from Ed that I lost the tag.I may be getting to old for this!------------------------------------------------------------------------Weedy