Decades ago I crossed old Hortensia with a red thinking I will get some nice ruffled reds.I'm still finding muddy tans and orange flowers with brownish eyes and really strange dull oranges and I think if there is an orange or yellow it will pop out somewhere; also when I first bought daylilies there were a great many solid orange and yellow ones. Some of the colors now amaze me, I avoid looking at the blue eyes because I don't even want to think of buying any more daylilies' I'll just continue dabbing around with those I have especially the reds.-------------------------------------------------------Weedy