dellac said:But at what point in pod development the seed starts to toughen up? I don't know. I'd have to sacrifice quite a few pods to discover that for myself.
I'm afraid sacrificial pods pods would be the only way to provide the necessary experience. Words can only convey so much. But now that I'm friends with Berry Francis (he spoke at the 2014 NALS Lily convention and we talked quite a bit), perhaps I can bend his ear. He complains (!) that he can do ER and grow things in vitro just fine, but can't grow them in the garden!
the Balkans are the epicenter of hellebores. The old Sunrise and Sunset strains came from the east and west sides of the Triglav (Slovenia).