I just wish my climbers would get that tall.. only Charles de Mills decided to grow that big and then I stupidly had to move him (but his thorns were EVIL & I had planted him in a bad spot) and he croaked where I put him. Stormy Night got to be about 2.5' this year, Leonardo da Vinci managed 3', Purple Splash was almost 6', Harlequin was only 3.5', and Orange Velvet got to be about 3' and definitely not climbing.. he stands more like a HT than a climber. Austrian Copper is acting a bit weird, had leaves only on the tips of his canes and definitely rambling. Theresa Bugnet, however, turned into a beautiful huge shrub.. about 6'wide and about 6.5' tall this year. I think a lot of it was lack of moisture this past winter.. that definitely hurt them.
