It is a chameleon plant jvdubb I'm so glad you knew what I was talking about! (Although now I'm more nervous if it's so notorious that you knew what i was talking about that easily.) I'd take a picture of it but I keep on pulling it up and spraying every time I see a sprig.
Dyzzy I've tried the pick it when it comes up method but it doesn't work too well sadly it's just wayyyy too much. I'd probably be pulling all the time. I guess eventually it'd start to thin but I guess I'm a tad bit more impatient. I am doing that method with my neighbors crappy grass that is constantly vining into my side garden but that's an impossible project for another day.
I've tried my best on multiple occasions to dig it all up. I can't dig up what's underneath the walkway though and I'm afraid that's where the remnants of roots are, and the roots are VERY DEEP I spent a few hours on just a few square feet of area then a few months later that area had some already growing back into it. I would say that the area is about a 20 sq foot area about? Before I really started battling the ivy it was taking on the yard and winning. I'll take a picture of it when I get back from work so you guys can experience my misery.
My thought for this fall to at least get it looking presentable for every single child and parent to see for halloween. I was thinking of doing one more really good dig then spraying it then putting in some landscaping fabric then some pine needles? The pine needles would be easier to move than the mulch next spring if any try to grow through the fabric. I guess i'm pretty nervous that yet again next spring the ivy will come out with vengeance.
As far as the rosemary and bulbs go, I was thinking about winterizing the rosemary inside and planting the bulbs somewhere else then when I know for sure that the ivy is gone I'll just get some more bulbs to plant in there. Thanks guys for giving me some good ideas.