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Oct 31, 2014 2:16 PM CST
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I don't think it can be All American Chief, if we "do the math…"

All American Chief was intro'd in 1994.

Hantesa says this was purchased from Wayside about 20 years ago - that would have been 1994.

I think I bought All American Chief for around $100 in 1998. I remember looking for it for a while before I was able to find any available to buy. I don't think Wayside would have carried it for sale that close to introduction. Maybe 10 or 15 years after introduction. I don't recall when, exactly, tissue culture became common, but I don't think it was used regularly that long ago. So, I think we have to consider that they would need time to multiply the plant to have enough fans to put in the catalog.

Same problem with Cherokee Star - it was introduced in 1995, one year after All American Chief.

At least Red Volunteer was intro'd in 1984, 10 years before Hantesa thinks this unknown was purchased… so there might have been enough time for stock to be built up for Wayside to have sold this in the mid 1990's.

If Wayside was selling this unknown 20 years ago - mid 1990's - I think it would have to have been really popular at the same time as Chicago Firecracker, Scarlet Orbit, Whooperee (sp?), Big Apple. So, possibly hybridized in the mid 1980s?

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Hantesa said:Can anyone help identify this big red beauty-- it is 3-4ft tall, huge flower with yellow eye -- originally purchased from Wayside Gardens catalog about 20 yrs ago.

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Hantesa said:It gets 2-3 ft tall.

Do you know which information is correct? The difference between 2' tall and 4' tall is a lot and having a better idea the actual height might lead to a better guess at what this is.

(edited for clarity)
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