Porkpal, I believe the white one is an Iceberg climber but I am not 100% sure. I bought it about 18 years ago I think from Jackson Perkins. Hmmm, maybe the tag is buried at the base under all that dirt - I will try and look in the Spring. In the meantime, is there anyone here that could ID this white climber? Thanks in advance. Margie
Toni, both Stormy Weather and Charles de Gaulle are grafted - bought from Palatine. I know Charles de Gaulle bloomed often. I am looking at the dates on some of my photos of this rose CdG. 6/23, 7/11, 7/12, 8/11 - 8/18, 8/27 - 8/31 and 10/30.
I know with Stormy Weather it starts out looking a reddish purple and as it matures it becomes a darker bluish purple color.
