I vote for juvie Red Shouldered. that's what our juvies here look like & yes, they can appear quite large. If I recall correctly, it takes them 2 years to get adult plumage so they can get pretty big in size before they get to looking (plumage wise) like adults. The other tell tale is the Red Tailed don't have white bands across the tail -- neither the adults or the juvies.
