I hear you about backing up my data...I do it, but probably not often enough!! Yes, bed maps would be very difficult to try to manage on the computer unless you were a drafter, designer, or engineer and had Autocad. The computers make some things easier but they can't do everything...yet! I do like you Tom, my wish list and data base are in identical format so I can cut and paste between them. Hopefully most of the cutting is from the wish list and the pasting is to the database and not the reverse!!!