I'll start with the HT's. I never had one but a few of the Kordes HTs are wearing down my resistance. Not sure how much longer I can hold out.
I have not had Poseidon either but would like to get it soon.
The others I have found to be extremely healthy and vigorous. Lost Alchemist to rrd and no longer grow climbing roses.
Brothers Grimm grows to 3-4 feet high and 3-4 feet wide here. Flowers all over bush like Cream Veranda with continuous bloom (rrrr).
Lions, Caramella, Golden and Elegant fairy tale all grow to 5-6 feet high and wide with time. Upwards growth habit and repeat bloom (rrr).
Cinderella had more fountain like growth with repeat bloom (rrr). I no longer have it as she would mildew here.
I had planted Lions rose in the front of one rose bed when I first got it. By July it was huge and sorely out of place. I got use too this with Kordes roses. They have renamed most of their roses now and I can now guess pretty well how they will grow. The fairy tales are large bushes.
Apricot Vigarosa however remains poorly named. It does not fit the vigorosa style which is large ground cover. It's a floribunda like Cream Veranda with continuous bloom.
Hope this was helpful. Good luck with your beauties.
