I think you'd like Apricot Vigorosa it is a lovely very healthy bush and the one from Palatine will be the floribunda.
Eons ago I thought I had the correct spot for Escimo rose. Seems it was going to be the size of White Out. Wrong, she does grow about 3 1/2 foot tall but 12 foot across totally devouring poor Apricot Vigorosa.
Seems as thou most Kordes roses grow as large here as they do further south. May be wrong thou as I've not heard of sizes from people in warmer zones. I now ask when I order say from Chamblee's or Roses Unlimited if they have seen how they grow.
Thank you, Zuzu for posting the link
