@p1mkw Mary, thanks for that link. When I go to their website I can't seem to get any results when I click on things in their menu. I'm not actually looking for ferns but I was trying to find an identity for Davids fern in an earlier post and the more I look at fern pictures I'm really leaning towards a Painted Fern @DavidofDeland how about the Japanese Painted Fern?