I met Art Chadwick here in Memphis, I went to his presentation on species behind the First Ladies catts that he gave last fall. I had been phone buddies for several years, as he is my main source for this group. Always helpful, but his plants are worth what he charges because of the rarity factor. There are some general plants he also sells or he would go out of business, I don't fault him for the high price tag on those. It's good to have him on your resource list!