Tom, was it you that mentioned the "San Marzano Redorta" tomatoes? I have some of those coming to grow this year, really looking forward to trying them! For anyone else that might be interested, this is the description from the "TomatoFest" website: "Named for a mountain, Pizzo Redorta in Bergamo, Italy. This is Gary Ibsen's preferred Italian paste tomato. A much larger tomato (8 oz., 4-inch) with much better taste than it's cousin, San Marzano. Good enough to eat off the vine with the bonus of ending up with more tomato paste per plant. Yum!" I've grown the hybrid "Viva Italia" for years, but for the past several years it hasn't seemed to produce that well for me so hoping to find a good replacement.