This is their 2nd Spring. They were planted in the Fall of 2008 (from the Fall rare fruit sale.) We got a few berries last year, but nothing like we're getting this year. They are 6' tall. You don't need them in the middle of the yard. Just leave enough room to be able to get on both sides. They are on an east facing block wall so they get morning and high noon sun. We don't have an arbor. Just a cheap lath trellis, tied to two cheap metal fence posts.
