Yes, Tiffany that's the one. I have read they will live to small shrubs, but have not been able to find any pictures of larger specimens. Here they are treated as annuals and are not available until later in the season, so I started digging them out of the garden before winter to use the next year. I have had some in the past that got leggy and I cut them back and they did not make it. I do not know if that was a one time deal or if it is even possible to get the look I want for a mini tree. Another reason I have been saving them is there has been a big problem with nurseries selling ones with fungus and once you have it, I have heard it can stay in your soil for up to five years effecting any new vinca being brought in. It is my favorite annual and the color I have now is a beautiful shade of red, so I decided a few years ago not to risk bringing in new color.