everybody for the wonderful comments !!! I have not received mine yet hopefully this week will get home from work and find his catalog it in the mailbox really excited to see which ones got names from Joe's garden there were just way to many excellent choices to pick from in his seedlings so looking forward to the surprise and seeing them again in April, It has been 60's here the past couple days and our forecast has 70's in it this week spring has finally made it to Iowa, started clearing dead leaves off of my main seedling bed this weekend to see what Winter left me to work with and at this point I came out of it really well