Regarding image copyrights, I don't think it's of concern, just a sticking point for me. When I brought them to attention on the Site forum, I was booed out. I presented several reasons why this is not good policy, and most had to do with accuracy of plant and photo identification, rather than copyright. One was: the ATP Terms of Agreement affords the right of admins to move my images. That's fine. But no where does it say that regular members have the right to move my images (as if they were their own) to the data base and without my prior permission. Yet they can. I can request that they be removed, after the fact, but that members are allowed to treat copyrights with such disregard really aggravates me. But I am happy that I can opt out, and most members don't see this as a problem. And Dave will have your back if any of your ATP images are stolen from here and used elsewhere on the internet.