Donna you are correct about the Y when I first started, years ago with Brugs I did not know this and I was buying starts on ebay, the chat, anywhere I could, ended up with 102 brugs and no bloom for two years, meanwhile I learned all I could about them, we used to have a great group in here that would talk every day. JT included, and we passed along all we had learned, last year I gave all my plants away, Dr. said I did not need all that work, well she was wrong I do need them to help get me through the day, nothing like a beautiful bloom to make you happy.