I had rows and rows (3.5'x50') of flowers at the farm but we tilled under most last year when we were having such a vole problem. I probably should have just had them mow them but I was thinking I wouldn't be doing market this year. Black eyed susans still popping up everywhere. Not the daisy though. I planted more this year and I have a couple here, but not enough to get the huge buckets of them. They didn't plow under the echinaceas!