Name: Michele Roth N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b) I'm always on my way out the door..
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Sorry, but those plants are unfamiliar to me, so I have no helpful information to share. Perhaps one or more of our dedicated sleuthing members can assist with some search sites that you could try. (The @ sign in front of their names will bring this question to their attention.)
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