Thank you, Ann. I live in an old gold mining town in the mountains of northern California. We have one small nursery and most of the plants are over-priced, so I don't shop there ...
I'll definitely have to purchase plants by mail order. I do like the plants you mentioned in your post. It gives me a starting point. That's kind of why I am asking so many questions about the need to pot up a clematis gradually.
My soil is improving, but I doubt if it will ever be wonderful.
Sue, I had thought of planting them with the roses. I do have some blank spots in some of the beds I've created that need something that will add height and initially, I thought I would site them in those beds. The new clematis may end up in the rose beds because I do like the look of roses and clematis.
I think it is going to be fun learning how to grow something that I've never grown before.
Thank you all for your support.