Peggy , when Judith Freeman , re-ignited my spirit in January, I went seed crazy , with all these crosses.. They will be good, & If I showed you some of my comparisons, in seedling form , you would be Gobstruck!.. Middle of winter & big 'spades' poking up... And yes Lorn -all are gone from the bath , To the Balcony ..Standing back up within 18 hrs!