You said it took a year and a half to germinate and grow (12-13 to 6-15). And that is fast? They are indeed beautiful. Species don't seem to do very well up here. I have been trying to get Iona but for some reason TLG won't send it. It is very similar to your pictures Mike so perhaps she is right. I lost all my big Orienpets this spring. Only the Asiatics and Orientals.