Catmint20906 said:So it is a shady wet area?
It stays wetter than most other places in our yard. When it gets dry, that spot gets watered since I walk by there every day to take care of the bird feeders. I am hoping to stick with native to Iowa for the most part, but at least native to the region. Maybe I'll look into some sedges or if there are any Laurels in the area. Catmint, if I am thinking the same ones, these are in the Heath family? I have enough Monarda fistulosa; I had no idea that got so big. But if they can tolerate that much shade, it is an idea, if nothing else works.
Thank you all again.